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are a year later after we've been through this fiasco already. we've been through the threat of a government shutdown. everybody's known this time was coming. i understand negotiating. i understand taking a hard line. i just wonder, with america and the world, business leaders here, business leaders around the world, the markets, everybody else looking so closely at this, was it necessary for the president to be so provocative with something that, you know, even "the new york times" said was, quote, loaded with democratic priorities, and really gave republicans nothing. >> again, it's a curious offer. i would imagine there has -- tim geithner's too smart of a guy, and this administration is filled with smart people. they must have a serious strategic plan. but if you were a pedestrian watching this, if the ceo of a company that's not been into the white house, a medium-size to small company, it has to be a source for alarm this morning that maybe they're not nearly as close to a deal as we thought. let alone if you're a ceo if you've been in the office with the president and you've laid out
over the role of government. is government an enabler in which case you feel that there should be higher revenue in order to carry on providing some kind of social safety net, or do you feel as republicans do that that just gets in the way of growth? the moment you raise taxes of any form, that's what is a growth inhibitor which is what republicans are saying. >> republicans have accepted the idea that there's going to be revenue. they're over that. the issue now is where does the revenue come from? quite frankly, if the five of us sat around this table, we could get this deal done pretty quickly. it's not hard to compromise it out. you don't increase the rates as much as obama wants. you do some stuff on deductions and so-called loopholes that the republicans want. you create $1.2 trillion of revenue. you have a trillion dollars of savings from some stuff that happened already last year, do some stuff on defense, you could get the $4 trillion package that we need. it's not hard. you just have two sides that are so polarized, have dug themselves into such deep corners, and just
years has been controlling the spending, the size and growth of government. controlling the ability of the government to confiscate more of your wealth, to trust more on the middle class and the working class, small business owners. and that's really kind of the link. and that argument, you talked about being primaried, that's the central primary argument that will be -- hit them upside the head in two years when they run is wait a minute. we sent you to control spending, yet you increased taxes. it's not increasing taxes on the wealthy, it's just blanketly you increase taxes. so you've got all this noise going on. and boehner's got to try to figure out a way to give these guys some cover but know he's got to cut the deal. to your point, leigh, about how do you begin to pull it from the big plan to a smaller plan, that's really what the white house and boehner quietly are talking about. >> and what we don't want also is i think a kind of down payment deal that sort of makes it a two-part deal that just delays everything. >> i think you're going to get some of that. i think you'll pr
. government's twice the size it was 11 years ago. and a good portion of that's discretionary. military, my colleagues have kind of a blind eye when it comes to the defense department. there's so much waste in the defense department, it's unbelievable. we could take another $50 billion, in my estimation, or $40 billion a year out of the defense department if we ran it right. you know, we have 1200 generals and flag officers now. at the end of world war ii, we had 2,000. we had 12.5 million people under arms, we've got 1.5 million. we've good an admiral for almost every ship in the navy right now. we've had this crete in terms of rank. there's all sorts of money to be saved in the pentagon that will have no effect whatsoever on our defensive posture or our capability. >> but steve, i'm curious, though. what is the difference, in your opinion, between raising the top marginal rate and closing some loopholes? if you get $1.2 trillion in revenue, why does it matter so much more to the president that you do it by raising the top rate when the super wealthy, as we've described on the show, aren't
. these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc political analyst, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> mr. professor. >> good morning. >> professor. >> and we have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner. >> financier. >> rattner is here. i like -- and we have to go back to that. it's the truth. >> it is! >> money is money. >> in washington, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> we saw him on the streets of d.c. yesterday, and he was very cagey. >> the mean streets of d.c. >> yes. he was so
for our economy, which would also bring revenue to the federal government. >> there's that word certainty, which we would fully understand. congresswoman, if there is not a deal reached, would you characterize that as a massive failure on the part of congress? in fact, both sides? >> yeah, i believe we either are going to succeed together or fail together. and i go back to the model from president reagan and tip o'neill in the early '80s. as they look at tax reform as well as these entitlement programs, that's the approach we need today. proven that it can be done. and we need president obama to come to the table, provide that leadership, the republicans are willing. speaker boehner is ready today. let's get the job done. >> all right. congresswoman kathy mcmorris rodgers. thank you for coming on the show. come back, glad you're there in the negotiations talking to everybody. >> eugene robinson, final thoughts this block? >> well, you know, actually congress and the president have agreed on a huge deficit reduction package. it's called the fiscal cliff. so, you know, in my darker moments,
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